The Mongolian Death Worm S8 E4

Welcome back to MVP's what the f***? Paranormal podcast where we talk about, well, everything the paranormal encompasses. So you ready? Let's f***ing do this. All right, welcome back, everybody, to another fantastic episode of MVP's wtf paranormal podcast. I'm Evan; I'm here with Mel and Tommy. Tonight Wes is out, uh, kind of sick or something, I don't know we're all sick, man I I this past week I've not felt well I haven't felt well in the past 10 years.

Yes, but this past week I felt unwell I don't know how to describe it. I didn't necessarily feel sick like, but today I I am sick and yesterday I was sick, but earlier in the week I just did not. I felt unwell just off yeah yeah, no, you taught me I'm the same but I was good this week.

Well, since I got my injections, I've been good now new injections nice, is it?

botox you know, the va is going to give me botox to help with my migraines oh, they talked to me about the same stuff and I was like I don't know how I feel about botox in my face well, it's around the hairline. My eye twitches like a lot and they were talking about pumping it full of Botox or whatever to stop the twitching.

Yeah, but it does help. It does help with the migraines. It's been known to work with it, so we're going to try that again.

Yeah, Well, maybe I'll give it a shot. I don't know. I just didn't want my face to swell up like some of them Hollywood actresses.

Yeah, we're not getting like. You're not getting like lip injections or cheek implants or anything and it's not like they're gonna just whatever you do. I guess I've never had it yet, but I want to make sure that I'm not like raising my eyebrows when they do it, because you know how. There's some people who get the injections and then they look perpetually surprised. Yeah.

I don't want to be that guy.

I don't want to be that either. That sounds terrible.

All right. So what have you got for us today?

Well, everybody it's been paying attention this season. You guys know what we're doing here. We're talking about the cryptids, the cryptozoology, the weird monsters that go bump in the night.

Yes.

And this week we've got some weird ones for you. We're talking about the creepy crawlies, the things with all the legs or know the legs, and in particular we're talking about the Mongolian death worm.

This thing, the Mongolian death worm, aka the big ass beast in the movie Tremors right.

I mean, I think they modeled it after this cryptid in particular, didn't they? What are they called the graboids in Tremors?

Yeah.

You know, they actually made a movie called the Mongolian death.

Yeah, it's an actual film.

It came out in like 2010 did you see it? Anything. Yeah, it doesn't look anything like tremors, but if I had to, if if it was me looking at this thing and from the stories and descriptions, I would think it would be a tremor, like one of those creatures, yeah, plus.

Kevin Bacon was in Tremors and hello, it's Kevin Bacon, Can't go wrong. Everybody loves.

Bacon, yeah, I got you, I got you, Evan, you did. I took him probably because that's what he always says oh man, I beat you, I got you, so let.

So, let's go we have a movie night at your house.

One night mill, we watched one of the trimmers movies we did we did that movie was terrible shut your dirty whore mouth I don't remember which one it was.

They had, like the ass blasters. Yes, oh my god, oh man. So yeah, deep within the vast deserts of Mongolia, you know, there's the whispers of this wriggling beast, the Mongolian death worm. It just sounds cool, man, it does, but when you think about it, you know, you think like. My mind immediately goes to like the giant sandworms and dune, uh-huh and uh. That is like could not be further from what this is. These Mongolian death worms are apparently only about five to seven feet long.

They're not gigantic, huge, enormous creatures what yeah, from what I've seen that's all I've heard is they're about five to seven feet long, about two foot, that's still big.

Because a snake? What is it? The Sambo was mistakenly mistaken for the Mongolian worm. Because of the length of the body and the way it's, uh, well shaped and it slithers, I could see that totally because I mean, let's face it, there's no actual pictures, because obviously anybody who takes a picture is eaten almost immediately afterwards.

I would assume. So yeah, I mean locally, in the local region they call it. I don't know really how to pronounce this word.

The large intestine worm.

Yeah, yeah, but they have like a native word for it Orge corkoy. Yeah, that's the one, that is the one. But yeah, apparently that translates to large intestine worm, because it just looks like a you know seven foot section of large intestine crawling along the desert.

Except for, like the face mouth thing, all of the like images that I have seen like with the teeth and stuff. Also like when it's like right all up in your, it's like right up all in the grill. It also kind of looks like a vagina With teeth. Yeah, it's a vagina with teeth.

It's every man's worst nightmare.

It is.

Don't go playing around with that one Well in books it wasn't just that this thing would eat you, but you could just mere touch and you would instantly die from it.

Yeah, because it has some kind of crazy lethal poison that I guess is covering its skin, this corrosive poison that covers its whole body, which is terrifying, yeah. So what do we know about this thingy?

there's a lot of myth about it and a lot of uh alleged encounters. There has been a lot of people who have uh actually ventured out to try to see if they couldn't find it in the Gobi desert of Mongolia. Yes, that would be the writers um looks like as earliest as hold on uh 2009 well, did you guys know about Roy Chapman Andrews?

yeah, in the the 1920s, yeah expedition that they did out there, yeah, so I briefly read about it, but so enlighten me Roy Chapman Andrews.

He wrote this article in asian mag, asia magazine, back in 1922 and, Roy Chapman Andrews, he was like hold on.

The magazine is called Asian Magazine Asia.

Magazine, it's New Conquest of Central Asia.

Well, this article was published. The article was published in the Asia Magazine.

The Asia Magazine.

Yeah, and it was. He then later published it in his book on the trail Trail of Ancient man. That was published like four years later and allegedly the Mongolian government asked him to maybe capture a specimen like either a photograph or some sort of specimen for it. They described it to him or some sort of specimen for it. They described it to him. No one had, and he said that the premier asked him if he would capture for the government this worm and he said it was shaped like a sausage, about two feet long, has no head, no legs. It's so poisonous that merely to touch it, if you touch it, it's instant death. Like Tommy was saying, it lives in the most desolate parts of the Gobi Desert where Andrews was allegedly going. So the Mongolian death worm is to Mongolians what the dragon is to the Chinese people. So even though they've never seen it, they all believed in this mythical creature and it had powers and it was very precious to them.

Interesting.

So Andrews reported. Then a cabinet minister stated that the cousin of his late wife's sister actually saw it and so if they ever crossed its path, Andrews promised that he would try and either capture a photo or get some sort of specimen. They told him it could be seat they. Maybe they could catch it by collect using long steel forceps.

Yes.

Yeah, and they suggested maybe you should wear dark glasses so that, because they were, they feared that if he looked at it it was so poisonous a creature that even looking at it could neutralize a person. Bang yeah, he said, and this was funny in his quote. He wrote the meeting adjourned with the best of feelings.

You can polarize sunglasses in your grill and tongs.

Yeah.

Good to go, buddy.

Then, after 1990, an engineer and a self-proclaimed crypto zoologist, monster hunter, Ivan Mackerel. He published some articles that were based on his travels in Mongolia and he described this thing as also possessing some sort of organ within itself that was electric, and he read about that. He claims that a geologist was killed from this high voltage electrical discharge when he inadvertently touched a buried death worm with an iron rod.

So not only does it have extremely toxic venom coating its whole skin, by the way, it says it's instant death when you touch it Like I mean. How instant are we talking? Do you think like Rick and Mort, it's instant death when you touch it like I mean?

how instant are we talking like? Do you think like?

Rick and Morty level, instant death, like touch it and fall over kind of thing, or like, yes, you know, get sick and die in a few minutes no ivan went to the desert because he got inspired by the novel dune of course who went.

so he built a motor driving thumper and it even used, like uh, dynamite and other explosions to try to see if he couldn't get these worms to come to the surface. No kind of like in the movie dune, where they're attracted to sound, yes or spice.

But also tremors in the same light.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Don't take my tremors from me.

So this guy actually built like some kind of an actual like thumper machine out there in the desert. Yeah, that's wild. He really believed in this. That's badass. Good for him.

So then there was a Russian paleontologist. Ironically enough, his first name was also Ivan, but his last name is like a Femrov or something like that, something Russian.

Fucking Russians, ruskies.

So he worked in the Gobi Desert and he wrote in 1958 his scientific it's a scientific book called the Wind's Path. And he stated in his book that he came across this elderly man while he was in Mongolia and the man warned all of the geologists of the Mongolian death war.

Supposedly this geological expedition in 1948 burned a whole bunch of them alive, burned them alive how I don't know, burn them allegedly some sort of geological expedition out in the Gobi desert found a whole bunch of Mongolian death worms and they set them on fire alive they just burned them all up, said we don't want none there's no hard evidence of the existence of these things, but I mean it's legends and stories mostly yeah, there's another guy, uh, Richard Richard freeman, um, who's a crypto zoologist guy, and uh, I actually have a couple of his books, the Adventures in Cryptozoology that are really good If anybody's interested.

they're really phenomenal books. Anyways, in 2005, he led a team out to the Gobi Desert in search of the Mongolian death worm as well as well, and they didn't actually encounter anything, but they documented lots of different, lots of testimonies from locals and collected a bunch of samples from the desert, soil and stuff.

but uh, interesting though he writes about it in one of his books good stuff I find it interesting that from the 1600s to the early 1900s, to the even 2000s, you know, there's been claims of this things, and it's not for lack of trying. It's kind of like, I think, the Mongolian death worm, if it ever were to have existed, it's in the running for wit against bigfoot in terms of the hide and seek champion and mermaids no, mermaids are not real what about unicorns?

no, this thing is like if you read about what it allegedly can do. That's scary as shit fuck.

Yeah, it's scary as shit. It can shock you to death, it can poison you with an instant death venom and it can just straight up eat you and at a distance.

It doesn't have to be up close and personal to you what do you mean?

at a distance? What?

oh, yeah, it is said to be killed at a distance. That's Ivan Mackerel. Yeah, so what can it like? Shoot its venom? It is said to be. Yeah, it can kill at a distance, either by spraying venom at its prey or by means of electricity discharge. Primary lives and barrels underground, only rarely coming up to the surface, and they say that's why there's the. It looks like tracks, like tunneling under the sand following the waves of the sand.

That's badass, you know how you'll have it looks like waves across sand, but it will be like a hump within that wave.

Well.

I was going to ask you guys when's the first time you guys heard about the Mongolian Death Worm.

Probably a couple years ago, when I started reading into these crypto books.

I don't know. Yeah, not too long ago.

So mine comes from back in like 2006.

They had it on Destination Truth, truth, of course.

then that makes it real, absolutely fucking real but I was just saying that was the first time that I remember hearing about this and looking everything up. That's why, when you guys were just telling the stories, I was like wait a second here. I know, know something about this. That's what I do.

I drink and I know things. You know something, Tommy. I told you you got some brains up all up in that big ass forehead of yours.

It's a landing strip people.

We call that like a five to six head.

Hey, I'm not bald OK.

No, no, you're definitely not. I am.

No, I got thin hair. Yeah, yeah, I just had somebody ask me. They're like hey, have you ever had it braided? And I was like no, it would all disappear.

No, no, no, I have not. There's some things that people have been saying that it could be Legless lizards, lot lizards. I thought those are hookers in trailer, like in trucker stops.

We need to ask a trucker. That's what they're called. Do we know any truck drivers?

Yeah.

We do, don't we.

We do.

Let's phone a friend.

Phone a friend. Oh shit, so legless lizards. Are those small, or are they big?

Generally, I mean yes, but generally on the smaller side. But, they are. You know, they're reptiles.

They resemble snakes.

They don't have limbs.

Okay.

Probably smaller than a Komodo dragon.

So then no.

Maybe, unless it's some different species of lizard From what?

I read it was nothing. But what was that Samboa? Okay, a tartar samboa. And it was about two foot long.

So samboas, those are non-venomous. Yeah, it does burrow.

Yeah, they do.

But they're not poisonous, though, no they're not killing you If you told kids a story.

But these are adults. I mean there's all kind of venomous snakes in the desert too Vipers and cobras and all kinds of.

It could also be a story that you tell your kids so they stop playing with animals like that.

In the middle of the Gobi Desert? Who the fuck's gonna go play outside in the middle of a fucking Gobi Desert?

Going out in the desert playing with these snakes. You know what I'm saying. They had to be taught. Hey, kids, don't play with snakes.

Don't play with them, big ass worms.

Don't play with trouser snakes and don't mess with the Mongolian death worm. Yeah, that's simple. The three snakes you mess around you don't mess with. So they also have bucks.

So there are worm lizards no worm lizards.

What is a worm lizard?

Okay, they're often mistaken for snakes because they do have very long bodies, but they're part of a different taxonomic group called Amphisbanians.

Amphisbanians, I don't know, I don't know how you say that.

Slippy, slappy.

Regardless, they're a lizard that don't have feet.

What is the Megongolia death worm? You accidentally ate one right. Would that still be a tapeworm? You'd be dead basically wouldn't matter. Yeah, because the poisonous yeah you're absolutely right you're stupid so those are all the options that it could be.

However, none of those fucking things you know are out there sending a million volts through people right.

The first report of this, allegedly the first sighting, was like a thousand years ago.

That's why I said it could have been something that was around. Yeah, uh, you know I'm not saying the desert was the desert back then. It could have actually had waters and and these are the worms that were in those waters. It's very possible. You're not wrong. I like the way you think I'll go hide in the closet now because she's about to bash me no, yeah, I mean there's a big difference between two feet and seven feet long you know, yes, that is a whole five feet difference yeah you know, the two footers could have been the juveniles oh, yeah, yeah

that's right they. They spit this corrosive yellow saliva and they generate blasts of electricity.

I'm just trying to think like you've got fish that generate, eels generate electricity, that's possible. All right, let's just say that the eel is a doesn't require to be in water. It can withstand deserts. And then, uh, there are, like poisonous frogs. We got poisonous tree frogs. Why can't we have a poisonous worm?

I mean, I'm not eating caterpillars since I got out of the army here's what's weird Mongolian was controlled by the soviet union up until 1990 and because of that, anything 1990, you can't really look for any kind of evidence because you know, obviously, the Soviet Union, the way they track things and document things, very different from here in the West. You could say that, yeah, maybe just a little.

A wee bit. Their logging process sucks, even though it does. Yeah, their logging process sucks, even though it does yeah.

So legend says. Now this is what I think is also kind of odd that when this creature is going to start to attack, right, it raises half its body out of the sand, puffs itself up until it explodes, and then the poison goes all over everybody.

Everything dies instantly so wait, it's a suicide worm as well that's what I was gonna ask.

Is it like a suicide worm?

I'm thinking what it is is kind of like a uh, uh, like a puffer fish, how it blows itself up but in order for it to spew it's got to compress, like build up the air inside like a compressor, and then it spews it out, probably.

Kind of like explosive diarrhea. Evan, you're about to be a new dad, so you're going to learn this. It's called blowouts.

It's alright to be peed and pooped on by your baby. By other people, not really.

By other people, not really so also, how would people know this story about if it blows up and kills everything nearby?

Maybe they watched it blow up and kill somebody else.

They could have. Think about it. Just because it hit somebody doesn't mean it hit everybody. You're right In more ways than one. I've been the inappropriate one tonight. Usually it's you or Wes and Evan. Usually you guys are over there snickering, but tonight it's been me.

Yes, which? Is ironic, because your avatar does make you look like Jesus you're healed okay you're forgiven for all the sins, of all the cryptids, and, and there are some really rando ones out there. This is, you know. Come on, man, I'm it's a wild one. Yeah, no, I just think this is Mongolian folklore I mean, that does seem like what it is.

Yes, yeah, I mean imagine, like them, holding down somebody, and let's just say that this worm doesn't have the immediate like death, but it does build up and they did like the wrath of con where they put it like on you or in you. That'd be kind of messed up.

Yeah, it's fucked up. I will agree with you that this does just seem like Mongolian folklore Folklore. However, there are other ones in, in other cultures Mongolian death worms? No death worms you know in a way. Yes, there is something called the guh. The guh is how it's spelled, yeah, also known as the yukon worm, and it is a cryptid invertebrate rumored to inhabit the St Elias Mountains located in the Canadian territory of Yukon.

Canadia finally got something.

Yeah, they have, and apparently I guess there's some natives up there I don't know how to pronounce their names Tuchone.

I don't know they're First Nation.

Yeah, t-u-t-c-h-o-n-e. I don't know their first nation. Yeah, t-u-t-c-h-o-n-e. I don't know, southern touchone. People have accounts of these Yukon giant worms up there so this is called the Yukon death worm Yukon giant worm is what they're called, also also called duh duh so this good, I mean, there are no deserts up in canadia.

No, no that irritates my husband so much when I call it canadia, because he's you know, he's Canadian and it's Canada it's kind of a desert in a way that it's nothing but forest. So that's nothing like a desert.

It's a forest desert.

No, bro, that doesn't work. You're dumbass. It's kind of like a desert just covered in forest Just covered in trees instead of sand. Yes, yeah, no, that's a forest Totally different ecosystem, yeah. Oh, different ecosystem, yeah.

Oh yeah.

What a douche. Does it?

look the same allegedly.

They're apparently like, almost black in appearance and they are in length comparable to bears, whatever that means. So maybe up to six feet, seven feet, ten feet somewhere in that general region, about as long as a bear, huh. But they're also big giant worms or caterpillar type things.

And they. I see here that someone saw it hanging out in a tree. You know how they say there are alligators in the sewers, Alligators in the sewers.

So yeah, that's not anything like a desert well, no, it's not a desert, but there's a big worm, but worms go down well, this one could be a worm and down under the soil, you know yeah, so I think it's Don't believe it for a second. Yeah, yeah, it's time to call bullshit.

Bullshit on what? Every fucking thing.

Okay. Well, there's also these real things called killer centipedes lurking in the rainforest of South America, and these are real worms.

How big do they get?

Usually only up to like at max. I think they're about 18 inches, so obviously not several feet, but they are big ass centipedes that do feed on, like frogs and tarantulas, birds, rodents, you know all kinds of stuff.

Well, I don't know if that was real or not, but in 1909, there was a journalist who was talking about the ice worms in the Yukon. Did you hear about that?

I didn't. Are you talking about the thing that was made up? By what was it Discovery those ice worms?

No, this was back in 1909. Discovery wasn't around then.

Yeah, but there's something about ice worms that Discovery did years ago, Okay ice worms go.

Apparently they do exist. Ice worms did exist on the coastal glaciers of Alaska, British Columbia and the Yukon. There was a biologist at Rutgers University, Dan Shane. He studied the life of the ice worm in North Americaica, and so yeah, he spent an entire summer trekking over coastal glaciers to find out everything he could.

He actually has jars of them in his lab he was able to extract dna from them, and so the ice worm actually might be the most highly adapted multi-celled creature on the planet. But they're small. They're not big either, they're little. They're about one to two centimeters long. They look kind of like a piece of yarn on ice, I guess.

They don't kill you.

Well, they have really big mouths.

Relative to its size.

I imagine yeah, so I guess no, that would be a no. Yeah, so I guess no, that would be a no. But apparently back in 1909 it was described as uh, one and a half meters long, with a head on both ends of its body.

So I've spent, uh, I spent some time up in the Yukon in the Yukon training area and, uh, I never seen no big ass ice worms, nothing like that. But I also wouldn't really look in you know.

But then these ice worms that this biologist found at Rutgers. Again, they're only just a couple of centimeters long, so I guess they don't count. So there's that.

Well, we do know there's worms in the ice, so that's, that's information we didn't have before.

I think a lot of this has been information we haven't had before I think it's great.

Yeah, it's pretty good I mean it's.

I will say this is one of the more creative cryptids you know. Listen, Asian folk don't fuck around when it comes to hey. If we're gonna make up some shit, we're gonna make up a monster. It's gonna be a damn good monster it's gonna be terrifying yeah, terrifying.

Yeah, and instantly kill you.

And maybe if we're pulling off of what Tommy said, instead of hey, we're warning our kids when you go play out in the Gobi Desert, never to be seen again because you're going to die of dehydration and sun exposure, the way to prevent that is to create this Mongolian death worm. This is why you don't venture out into a vast desert, Not because you're just going to die, but because of the worms.

And I'm still thinking that the desert wasn't as dry as it is now. I'm still thinking that it could have a stream. Maybe there was some brush trees, that kind of stuff. Then it wouldn't be a desert. We're calling it a desert now Because it's a fucking desert, but you got to think a thousand years ago the Earth's surface could have changed.

Yeah.

It most definitely did.

Yeah.

Over time.

But the Gobi Desert. It's saying here that the Gobi Desert landscape was formed at the squiggle line 2.6, capital M, small a. What does that mean? Approximately 2.6 million years ago? Oh well, why didn't they just write that?

You said approximate to squiggly line. Like I'm over here like squiggly line you're so dumb you are really dumb for real yeah, yeah, I feel like you just gave us like a star trek intro start eight, six, nine to the point eight, listen I don't scientific math either to the squiggly line I don't need your judgment.

Okay, I feel well I mean tommy's, not too wrong. You know the goby desert, I think at one time was under the ocean yeah, over 2.6 million years ago well, that could be just a prehistoric relative that somehow figured out how to adapt and live underneath the sand instead of under the water.

Yeah, I don't know but when you're looking life is weird when you're looking up the history of the mongolian death worm, they said that it was mostly seen in the 1950s. That shit was a desert man I mean yes, yes yeah, but you said the story was over like a thousand years old and that's what made me start thinking the goby desert was a dry ass sand dune of a desert a thousand years ago well, the, the death worm, could be older than a thousand years.

People could have been dealing with it more than a thousand years ago. They just weren't talking about it or writing it down.

Or they talk about it and the story just got passed down. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I don't think so.

I mean, I don't know either, man, I'm going to agree.

That's why we're on this podcast we don't know Right Don't ever say that shit again.

We don't. We can only theory-, we can only theory-erize. Yeah, thank you.

If people are listening to this, thinking that we're experts, you're wrong.

Clearly we're a bunch of dumb fucks at this point. Never mind the degrees that we have. We're stupid as shit.

We're just having a good time. My mama said. My mama said alligators are because they got all them teeth.

Well, that was all right, we got that out of our system Mongolian death worm. Completely no fake yeah, I mean you, probably just a myth, in my opinion what do you mean?

probably?

all right, it's just a fucking myth.

Okay, it's just yeah for me it's a myth, it's a bit it is I mean, I gave up ideas, but to me it's still a myth yeah, I mean it's a cool myth, but it is, it's a myth I will say the pictures that people have created for them.

I am impressed. Yeah, I am impressed am I gonna run? Out and watch that movie.

Mongolian death, worm death rises from deep below fuck, no sounds pretty good hell I just knew it as a Mongolian death worm nobody even mentioned the giant desert worm pit thing in Star Wars that Boba Fett falls into there was a Mongolian death worm in Star Wars no, but it's a giant ass. You know, pit of teeth like worm thing in the desert.

Oh, I bet you, it's based off of this.

I just figured we needed to mention it for all the nerds out there. So well, you guys are nerds bro, you're on a fucking paranormal podcast talking about Mongolian death worms.

You're a fucking nerd too well, if you want to bring it up like that, well fine, I'm not being on a podcast.

I feel unwell then I'd be back again all right, fair enough.

Well, if, if you you know folks, if you got, if you got worms in the desert the fuck are you doing?

I don't even know where he's going at. Hold up, hold up.

I don't know where I'm going, man don't look at it. Wear dark glasses wear gloves and have your hot dog tongs on you, you can make a lot of money. Worms in the desert oh shit, it is what it is, bro. Don't let your kids go play in the desert. That'd be frowned upon too.

No, if your kid comes up to you like hey, I found a worm in the sandbox. It's not a worm. Just go ahead and wash your kid's hands off and go home, oh man.

Alright, on that note, everybody go fuck yourselves. Good night, good night.

Good night, oh my God.